OpenAI’s CPO on what’s coming next: Hardware, GPT-5, Jony Ive, agents, more

This week, I'm speaking with Kevin Weil, Chief Product Officer at OpenAI, who is steering product development at what might be the world's most important company right now.
We talk about:
(00:00) Episode trailer
(01:37) OpenAI's latest launches
(03:43) What it's like being CPO of OpenAI
(04:34) How AI will reshape our lives
(07:23) How young people use AI differently
(09:29) Addressing fears about AI
(11:47) Kevin's "Oh sh!t" moment
(14:11) Why have so many models within ChatGPT?
(18:19) The unpredictability of AI product progress
(24:47) Understanding model “evals”
(27:21) How important is prompt engineering?
(29:18) Defining “AI agent”
(37:00) Why OpenAI views coding as a prime target use-case
(41:24) The "next model test” for any AI startup
(46:06) Jony Ive's role at OpenAI
(47:50) OpenAI's hardware vision
(50:41) Quickfire questions
(52:43) When will we get AGI?
Kevin's links:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinweil/
Twitter/X: @kevinweil
Azeem's links:
Substack: https://www.exponentialview.co/
Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azhar
Twitter/X: https://x.com/azeem
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